Posted: 8/31/2013 5:08:58 PM EST In for the answer. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Other powders sharing this same situation are 4227, 4198, 4895, and 4831. $249.66. From the list, there are 15 powders between them. Actual burning rates can vary depending on the calibre, firearm, loading components and practices, as well as from powder lot to lot. R-1 Norma 2. 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IMR 3031 (Improved Military Rifle) WIN: 1.750" 2.250" Starting: 21.0 gr: 2,281: 42,500: 0.224" Hodgdon: Max: 22.5 gr: 2,514: 51,700 : 60 gr: V-MAX (HDY) WIN WSR: IMR 4064 (Improved Military Rifle) WIN: 1.750" 2.250" Starting: 23.0 gr: 2,312: 42,500: 0.224" Hodgdon C Max: 24.7 gr: 2,517: 52,600 : 60 gr: V-MAX (HDY) WIN WSR: IMR 4198 (Improved Military Rifle) WIN: ⦠All Palmetto Reloading Gear/Accessories! ... IMR Powder - 3031 1lb. About the same, the 4064 kernel is a little thicker and the 3031 kernel a little longer. IMR-4064 is compatible with the gas system. It is the 140 Sierra's fuel in my 7mm-08 . When doing load development, and testing one powder versus another, itâs generally wise to choose propellants that share the same relative burn rate, as least for starters. Versatility with uniformity and accuracy. Stay up on the latest. Out of Stock. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk. It is equally effective in small-capacity varmint cartridges from 223 Remington to 22-250 Remington, and itâs a great 30-30 Winchester powder. N310, Vihtavuori 3. You have to have good light to see the difference so I can't tell any difference with a Lyman 55. And that I shot my best cast boolit group ever . All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. SMK, 40.0 gr. Just thinking about trying some thing new. The "trick" powder was 4895 or 4064 . IMR 3031, 4064, 4198, 4227, 4320, 4350, 4831m 4895, 7828 and 7828 SSC. 41.8 is almost the starting load for a 175 gr SMK based on the IMR loading guide. IMR recommends always consulting www.IMRReloading.com for the most accurate, up-to ⦠Best it would do was 1.5 inches in a barrel that shoots 1/2 MOA with many loads. In match shooting most people use CCI Benchrest or fed 210 m primers. $34.58. IMR Powder - 4064 8 lb . IMR 4064 is a medium-range burn speed powder and is one of the most versatile propellant in the IMR line, used for 223 Remington, 22-250 Remington, 220 Swift, 6mm Remington, 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum, 308 Winchester, 338 Winchester Magnum, and the list goes on and on. Each of these powders is available from both the Hodgdon and IMR powder companies. Have you chrono'd it? Powder equivalents. Why not? Those articles were reprinted and incorporated in the NRA Semi-Auto rifle guide, which I think is still available from them. 3031 is a little fast, but if your rifle likes it, it should be fine. ALL Accurate 2700 Accurate 4064 Accurate 4350 Accurate MagPro Alliant Powder 2000-MR Alliant Powder 4000-MR Alliant Powder AR-Comp Alliant Powder Reloder 10x Alliant Powder Reloder 15 Alliant Powder Reloder 16 Alliant Powder Reloder 17 Alliant Powder Reloder 19 Alliant Powder Reloder 22 Alliant Powder Reloder 23 Alliant Powder Reloder 26 Alliant Powder ⦠IMR Powder - 4064 1lb. Feb 17, 2013 #7. fishfryer still frying fish driveler. "BUT" My 308 Liked 3031 best. It's slightly faster than 4064 so it may give you slightly better performance in the 30/30. Add to list Add to registry. Why? 4064 is all I run in my 308 with 165 Sierra's . IMR 4320 will meter a bit better than 4064. IMR 4064, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer 190 gr. It is equally effective in small-capacity varmint cartridges from 223 Remington to 22-250 Remington, and itâs a great 30-30 Winchester powder. IMR-3031 was one of the illustrious family of âimproved military rifleâ powders introduced by DuPont in 1934-35, which also included IMR-4227, 4198, 4064 and 4320. Okiecruffler Member. Those that I've talked to that have played with IMR-3031 have gone back to other powders like IMR-4064 or the unobtainable Varget. So its certainly within spec. Joined: Dec 27, 2002 Messages: 3,349 Location: Del City, Okla. IMR 3031 (Improved Military Rifle) REM: 2.212" 2.995" Starting: 0.312" Hodgdon: Max: 41.0 gr: 2,632: 46,100 : 150 gr: SP (HDY) FED 210: IMR 4064 (Improved Military Rifle) REM: 2.212" 2.995" Starting: 0.312" Hodgdon: Max: 44.7 gr: 2,699: 46,400 : 150 gr: SP (HDY) FED 210: IMR 4166 (Improved Military Rifle) REM: 2.212" 2.995" Starting: 39.9 gr: 2,477: 36,400: 0.312" ⦠Anyone have temp issues with IMR 3031, how about IMR 4064? There are literally dozens of powders that have listings for any given caliber or bullet. Add to list Add to registry. It was the choice powder for 308 until Varget came along. Win 748, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer Long Range .308 Match Loads â Effective past 500 Meters From the IMR website: A medium burn speed propellant with many uses, IMR 3031 has long been a favorite of 308 Match shooters using 168-grain match bullets. Each has it's developmental roots in a particular cartridge and bullet combination. SIE HPBT MR IMR 4064 .308" 2.800" Min GR MV 41.5 2,500 45,200 PSI Max GR MV 45.6C 2,728 59,500 PSI If it does a good job in all three I would go for it. I don't have experience with IMR-4895 or 4198 but depending on the bullet, IMR-4895 fits my comfort zone better than 4198. All in all, it's a good compromise powder for you. Double Base. In burning rate, IMR-3031 ranked in the middle, with 4227 and 4198 faster and 4064 and 4320 slower. Palmettostatearmory. IMR 3031 or 4064 Any starting recipes you guys would be willing to share? IMR 3031; Norma N-201; RamShot X Terminator; Hodgdon H322; RamShot TAC; Accurate 2230; Winchester 748; Hodgdon BL-C(2) Accurate 2460; Hodgdon H335; IMR 4895; Hodgdon H4895; Accurate 2495BR; VihtaVuori N135; IMR 4064; Accurate 2520; IMR 4320; Norma N-202; VihtaVuori N540; VihtaVuori N140; Alliant RL-15; Hodgdon Varget; Hodgdon H380; RamShot ⦠Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Exposure, Aug 10, 2007. You can have both! So id back down to 42 and work up to 43.5grs Varget, or get some RE15. Nothing super accurate, just basically plinking rounds. Note: This table shows only approximate equivalent values within about 5%. I used 147gr mil surplus pulls over 42 grns. IMR recommends always consulting ⦠I just used a pound of 4064 for my bolt gun. Re: Max load for .308 Win with IMR 4064 and 168\'s? Where H-4831 excels in a longer barrel, 4064 will generally do better in a shorter one. On a second note this past summer a guy I work with gave me a 1/2 pound of 30-31 . 11:28. A medium burn speed propellant with many uses, IMR 3031 has long been a favorite of 308 Match shooters using 168-grain match bullets. http://www.chuckhawks.com/reduced_recoil_H4895.htm, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to
I've ran into a few different batch burn rates with Varget. 108 IMR Powders IMR 4895 40.4 42.1 43.9 44.7 45.6 110 Alliant Powders AR Comp 39.8 41.3 42.8 43.6 44.3 111 IMR Powders IMR 4166 End. 190 gr. If you are looking for one compromise powder for the 30/30 as well as the 308 and 30/06 then you should also consider either brand of 4895. $35.50. IMR 4895 is almost as good as Hodgen's 4895. I found some 7-08 loads in the cast boolit book [Lyman 4th]. Available now as the original IMR 4350, Hodgdonâs H4350 and Accurate Armsâ 4350, the potential for confusion is obvious. Also member of FTA,CBA. I'm risky like that. Here's the whole list: Fastest to slowest burn rates 1. Life Member of NRA,NTA,DAV ,ITA. Hodgen 4895 has the same temp insinsitive properties as Varget, burns slightly faster, and meters jsut as good if not better, can be used equally good in 308, 5.56, and most other rifle battle and intermediete calibers in bolt or semi JeffreyDeGraff. Political correctness is a national suicide pact. Powders included IMR-3031, IMR-4895, IMR-4320, IMR-4064, H-4895 and WW-748. Why do you have to use only one powder? Feb 17, 2013 #7. Jesus said ( Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest ) Matt. It's also an extremely useful powder for cast bullets in all three of the calibres that you load for. Just trying to keep things simple on the bench. One thing we should not lose sight of is that, even though this was a recognized, acceptable load in the 1950s and â60s, recent manuals advise against exceeding 47.5 grains of IMR 4064. It may be because the 4350 gives the bullet more of a push rather than a slap. The IMR series of powder is trusted by reloaders all across the globe. Re: .308--IMR 4895 vs. IMR 4064? I'm curious what you are getting. I used to load a lot of 3031 years ago, but not any lately. 10-20-2018, 01:35 PM #2. This new table shows the latest IMR powders including the Enduron series (IMR 4166, 4451, 4955, 7977), shown in green below. I have Varget, 3031, 4064, and 4895. So far 4064 has worked well across the spectrum. I am a fan of the 45-70. Product uniformity is Varget's biggest issue. IMR 4350 was listed at 94 with H 4350 at 95. Long story short is if your using cast 30-31 may be worth a try .There are advantages to using 1 powder for all 3 such the savings of buying 8# jugs ,storage space.. I'm using IMR-3031 with the 300gr bullets in 45/70. add to cart. IMR 4064 and all IMR powders are extremely uniform batch to batch. I tried some 3031 in my Contender starting with 21.0 gr. SMK, 41.0 gr. Exposure, Aug 10, 2007 #1. I'm not sure why. The data Ive got from Sierra shows 42grs RE15 to be the "Accurate load"(I found the same thing to be true) and 43.5grs Varget as the max load. Quick View. 223 with IMR 4064 Has anyone used IMR 4064 in 223 rem? add to cart. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The most accurate loads aren't usually at the top of the velocity curve anyway. add to cart. Duff I recomend that you start with a 168gr matchking,size trim and weigh brass,sort withen .2tenths of a grain then start loading. Here is the IMR BULLET WEIGHT 175 GR. Any good reloading manual will give you a wide range of choices for loads. check out the. IMR Double Base Pistol/Shotshell â Red â Green â Blue â Unequal. Quick View. The order of preference of powders in 308 match loads seems to be Varget, H or IMR-4895, 4064, and 3031. Get the best brands at the best prices for all your hunting and outdoor supplies from Shyda's Outdoor Center covering Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia and Delaware. It's shorter kernels also measure out more accurately through powder measures than the long kernels of 4064. This chart provides useful information for all hand-loaders. I've used 4064 in 30-30 & 06 with Jacketed. I normally used h335 for bulk loading 223 but just wondered if anyone had any experience.
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